On October 26, 2008, I had the opportunity to visit with Tania Gabrielle, an expert numerologist on her radio show By the Numbers on WebTalkRadio.net.
"Renowned Vedic Astrologer Joni Patry returns to share riveting insights about the upcoming election and 2009 with Tania Gabrielle. New discoveries for both McCain and Obama are revealed. In the News are Beyonce’s name change and the cryptic comments about an Obama Presidency made by Joe Biden, Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright. Gabrielle gives an depth profile of November 4, 2008 and the number 16/7 to conclude the show."